an oldie but a goodie lolz

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Mac: Life Made Harder

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Here is a great video too!

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It’s a real Microsoft speech about Windows Vista, with someone showing every feature on a Macintosh. The cool thing is, these features have been out for years on the Macintosh, and still unreleased by Microsoft.

For all you Mac haters out there, you still owe them a lot. All Microsoft does is copy them. If it wasn’t for Apple, windows would be no where as good as it is now.

Most people that bash Mac have never used Mac OSX, or tried it for 15 minutes and never gave it a chance (you gotta overcome what you are used too, once you do, you realize that people that actually understand how and why people use computers designed the OS). I see more and more articles on the web where computer enthusiast websites like Anandtech change to working on reports and typing reviews on Mac computers because they are just so much more efficient and easier to use.

Microsoft is a giant Xerox machine.

Windows 95 was the biggest copy of the MacOS I have ever seen. “Recycle Bin” lol.

Netscape was a far better browser than IE in the beginning, but Microsoft made IE free and bundled IE with Windows. IE is still one of the worst browsers around in terms of usability and security, and yet 90% of the web uses it because it comes with Windows. But do not worry, IE7 will have a great new feature called TABBED BROWSING, oh yeah... Oh wait, everyone else has had that for years as well, except, in other browsers you can actually re-order your tabs! IE7 can't, kinda like how you can't re-order items in your taskbar in Windows. FireFox 2.0 Beta has spell checking in text boxes!!! Whoa, why couldn't Microsoft come up with that idea? No doubt it will be copied.

ICQ and AIM were kings of IM, until Microsoft started to bundle MSN messenger with Windows. Now MSN is the #1 instant messenger program.

Microsoft did not write DOS even. They bought it.

These are just a few examples of things Microsoft copied.

What was the last innovative OS feature that Microsoft came up with? DirectX? That’s about 10 years old now.

It just seems to me that the people that bash Apple are people that never ever even give them a chance. If you want to game, buy a PC. If you want to do anything else, buy a Mac.

Edit: I would like to thank Noren for allowing me to do a Macintosh rant!

I actually dont hate mac. I used them for graphic design. and the video is hilarious lol.

The video I posted is however true regrading older macs LOLZ

Noren wrote:

I actually dont hate mac. I used them for graphic design. and the video is hilarious lol. The video I posted is however true regrading older macs LOLZ

Just so you know, I myself don't even own any apple products.

It's just a recuring joke with the guild. People poke fun of Apple all the time and then I go on a little rant!

haha understandable I have a few friends I pick on. But I own a mac g5 for graphic design lol

I can sum up everything Tpol just said into one small sentence. Microsoft sux and copies apple. Thats basicaly all you said, but like repeated 10 times.

You know what's funny. I know Hunter. I grew up with him. I would love to actually get in contact with him, but I don't know where he lives anymore. That video was hysterical and the first time I've seen it.

Reiki

Yes, Microsoft does copy some things from Apple, but Apple copies from other freeware OS's. (Linux, Unix, BSD). Apple has said for years that Microsoft copied BASIC from them... which they copied from someone else. Everyone copies everyone else. It's called business. It’s a game of build a better mousetrap. Only difference is Microsoft makes things easy, accessible and useful and Apple ummm doesn't. Apple has always had an ass backwards approach to technology which was to use software to sell hardware and everyone else did it the right way, using hardware to sell software. Apple kept things proprietary which hindered their growth and the other companies who did it the right way flourished while Apple stagnated until the iPod, which even now is losing its market share because iTunes is a piece of junk and their approach to selling music is stupid and archaic.

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Apple has always had an ass backwards approach to technology which was to use software to sell hardware and everyone else did it the right way

Using software to sell hardware works for Sony and their PS2... The Xbox and Gamecube are way more powerful than the PS2, but most people buy a PS2. I guess Sony is backwards!

There are several features that were not copied sir. Linux etc does not have a 3d accelerated desktop. While some may laugh saying a 3d accelerated desktop is worthless, they must have never used a Mac with OS X... It makes working with program windows so much easier.

Apple basically pioneered the way how the GUI looks in any modern day OS.

At least I can name things that were first thought of, or implimented, my Apple, can you name ANY by Microsoft in the last 10 years (or... ever)?

Try out a Mac sometime.

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It’s a game of build a better mousetrap.

At least the mousetrap business can patent their ideas... If everyone could just copy everyone all the time. No buisness would come up with new ideas, as the money they use for R&D would be wasted because others would just copy it. This is exactly what MS does.

A technology business that NEVER innovates is doomed for failure in the long run. But this is not the case with Microsoft, since people that write programs for it's OS are the people that innovate, Microsoft simply copies other people's hard work and bundle it with Windows for free.

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Apple kept things proprietary which hindered their growth and the other companies who did it the right way flourished while Apple stagnated until the iPod, which even now is losing its market share because iTunes is a piece of junk and their approach to selling music is stupid and archaic.

BTW itunes is the #1 online music store and it's market keeps growing. The ipod is the #1 music player as well. I think Microsoft has come out or will be coming out with their "copy" of iTunes. It should be doomed for failure, as it will probablly be too confusing and hard to use for an average joe imo. I don't see how the iPod is losing market share, as each quarter, they have sold more than the previous.

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Only difference is Microsoft makes things easy, accessible and useful and Apple ummm doesn't.

Wow... just wow. The most awesome thing about Apple is how easy they make everything... For example, old Grandma can have a digital camera, press 1-2 buttons, and have all her pictures uploaded onto the web with .mac automatically. There are numerous people with windows boxes that ask me how they can share their photos online. It's difficult for them to understand and do. This is just one example.

Sure most people here will be using a PC (myself included), but you have to realize that we are in the minority of people. MOST people that have computers do not play games. Any average joe computer user is better off with a MAC imo (no viruses, no spyware, easy to use, etc). Any professonal doing most kinds of productive work is also better off with a Mac imo. The people that cannot admit that Apple has certain advantages over Microsoft, and just bash Apple 24/7 and very strange. They seem like fanboys to me

Have you ever had a call from a Family member that killed their computer with spyware, or can't figure out how to install a printer? If they had a Mac they wouldn't be calling you with their problems.

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When I first started using a PowerBook G4 over a year ago it quickly turned into the best experience I'd ever had with a notebook. My biggest issues with notebooks were always related to reduced productivity, mainly because of screen size and resolution constraints. Despite its name, Windows does an absolutely horrid job of managing lots of windows, something which looks to be on the road to getting fixed in Vista but back then there was no hope in sight. It also just so happens that when I'm getting a lot of work done and when I happen to be my most productive, I have a ton of windows open at once. The move to tabbed browsers alleviated some of the problem, but for the most part it still existed. And on a notebook, with a small lower-resolution screen and an uncomfortable to use pointing device productivity suffered. My experience with OS X and the PowerBook G4 changed all of that; window management under OS X was significantly improved for reasons I've outlined before (Exposé, hiding vs. minimizing windows, the zoom to fit control, etc...) and it even addressed the issue of user input. With the large number of keyboard shortcuts that existed for virtually everything in OS X, I spent far less time using the trackpad and much more time actually getting work done.

www.anandtech.com/mac/...spx?i=2740

This was said by Anand Lal Shimpi himself. He runs one of the most respected PC hardware review sites on the internet.

Tpol wrote:

Using software to sell hardware works for Sony and their PS2... The Xbox and Gamecube are way more powerful than the PS2, but most people buy a PS2. I guess Sony is backwards!

Well in this one specific instance the ps2 was the cheapest dvd player in Japan on its release so it sold a *ton* of copies just as a dvd player. One important metric for consoles is the ratio of games sold to consoles sold and as I recall ps2 has one of if not the worst in the history of consoles.

Rifkin wrote:

Well in this one specific instance the ps2 was the cheapest dvd player in Japan on its release so it sold a *ton* of copies just as a dvd player. One important metric for consoles is the ratio of games sold to consoles sold and as I recall ps2 has one of if not the worst in the history of consoles.

Yeah. A lot of casual gamers get a PS2, while a lot of hardcore ones get an Xbox or Cube (or all 3 or something). That's why. Still the PS2 sells more games by far, since, there are millions more PS2s out there.

I used to work for Apple a few years ago and I have also worked for Microsoft as well as Dell. My only real problem with Apple is that I wish they would just realize that they have never really been a hardware company and that their software is far superior to their hardware (outside of physical appearance which I really dig). Apple has done some really neat things over the past I just think their lack of willingness to be more open with their hardware compatability has brought them to where they are now. If I could afford a Mac portable that had the same specs as my Dell with a warrantly half as good I would have bought one. But as everyone knows.... They are pricy.

poenasux.

That's not very nice. T-T

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Using software to sell hardware works for Sony and their PS2... The Xbox and Gamecube are way more powerful than the PS2, but most people buy a PS2. I guess Sony is backwards!

Actually no, Sony did it the right way with the PS2. They have made more money off of software than they did hardware. Not only do they sell their own games, they sell licenses, which means to make a game for the PS2, you have to buy the rights from them as well as their software kit. So they actually still use hardware to sell software. They are however apparently taking the stupid Apple approach with the PS3, which explains the 600 dollar price tag.

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Linux etc does not have a 3d accelerated desktop.

XGL, look it up.

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Apple basically pioneered the way how the GUI looks in any modern day OS.

You mean shiny icons and transparency? Ya that was in Linux first.

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BTW itunes is the #1 online music store and it's market keeps growing. The ipod is the #1 music player as well. I think Microsoft has come out or will be coming out with their "copy" of iTunes. It should be doomed for failure, as it will probablly be too confusing and hard to use for an average joe imo. I don't see how the iPod is losing market share, as each quarter, they have sold more than the previous.

Let me explain market share to you, since you obviously don’t understand it. It means you have a percentage of a business or industry. I never said iTunes wasn't the number one pay for service and yes, they are growing, but the digital online market is growing faster than they are, so their percentage, their market share, is dropping. Other music services are taking bigger chunks out. Also, don't drink the Kool-Aid that Apple sends out. It took them 3 years to sell a billion songs, but more than a billion songs are still downloaded illegally every month. Basically more songs are downloaded over the internet in a month than iTunes has sold, combined, over its first 3 years of existence. Also, when the new CD copy protection comes out, it's going to be based on WMA, so iPod owners are screwed if they wanna rip CDs into their iPods unless they do the whole loopback approach which sorta kills the whole "Apple is easy" ideal.

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The most awesome thing about Apple is how easy they make everything... For example, old Grandma can have a digital camera, press 1-2 buttons, and have all her pictures uploaded onto the web with .mac automatically.

No, my grandma plugs her digital camera into her XP machine and it automatically downloads all the pictures into her My Pictures folder. There’s not even any buttons to be pushed. On top of that, she doesn’t have to pay 100 bucks a year like you do for .mac. It's all free!

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Any average joe computer user is better off with a MAC imo (no viruses, no spyware, easy to use, etc).

I love how Apple fanatics love to point out the no virus/spyware thing. You know why there are very few viruses for macs? It's not because it’s such a secure OS, it’s because NO ONE OWNS A MAC. A virus writer wants to infect as many machines as he can and it’s a waste of manpower and time to write a virus for a machine that no one owns. He might as well be writing a virus for a commodore 64. It would have the same effect, something that would infect an inferior machine that represents like 1 out of every 1000 boxes on the internet.

I guess the next obvious question is, if Apple is supposedly so superior and OS X is such an awesome OS... then why don't you own a Mac? If you answer price, performance or availability of applications, you are pretty much admitting to what people have been saying this entire time. Just drop the Apple bullshit, it's getting old. The company sucks and their hardware is overpriced crap wrapped in shiny clear and white/black plastic.

Abes I don't know if I ever met you when I was on Hellscream but I do agree with a lot you have to say.

"I love how Apple fanatics love to point out the no virus/spyware thing. You know why there are very few viruses for macs? It's not because it’s such a secure OS, it’s because NO ONE OWNS A MAC. A virus writer wants to infect as many machines as he can and it’s a waste of manpower and time to write a virus for a machine that no one owns. He might as well be writing a virus for a commodore 64. It would have the same effect, something that would infect an inferior machine that represents like 1 out of every 1000 boxes on the internet."

That was awesome, I fell out of my chair when I read it. And when my boss saw why he understood my reaction. Great stuff.

This is a gromit cupcake

It looks tasty! Buttercream frosting?

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Not only do they sell their own games, they sell licenses, which means to make a game for the PS2, you have to buy the rights from them as well as their software kit.

Interesting... Apple does the same thing.

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You mean shiny icons and transparency? Ya that was in Linux first.

No, I mean the OS look. You know, the one Microsoft copied with Windows 95, and continues to use to this day.

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Let me explain market share to you, since you obviously don’t understand it. It means you have a percentage of a business or industry. I never said iTunes wasn't the number one pay for service and yes, they are growing, but the digital online market is growing faster than they are, so their percentage, their market share, is dropping. Other music services are taking bigger chunks out. Also, don't drink the Kool-Aid that Apple sends out. It took them 3 years to sell a billion songs, but more than a billion songs are still downloaded illegally every month. Basically more songs are downloaded over the internet in a month than iTunes has sold, combined, over its first 3 years of existence. Also, when the new CD copy protection comes out, it's going to be based on WMA, so iPod owners are screwed if they wanna rip CDs into their iPods unless they do the whole loopback approach which sorta kills the whole "Apple is easy" ideal.

"NPD Techworld figures disclosed at the meeting showed that U.S. iPod market share reached 78 percent in March, up from 71 percent in December."

www.itworld.com/Tech/5...appleipod/ In an article titled: "Apple discusses growing iPod market share" Article Date: 4/20/06

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No, my grandma plugs her digital camera into her XP machine and it automatically downloads all the pictures into her My Pictures folder. There’s not even any buttons to be pushed. On top of that, she doesn’t have to pay 100 bucks a year like you do for .mac. It's all free!

Are you saying you have to pay $100 bucks a year to upload pictures to your mac? Because you don't. I fail to see your argument here. Macintosh makes it easy to share it with the world. You have the pictures in "My Pictures" oh wow, they are on your computer. I bet grandma doesn't even know where the My Pictures folder is located, let alone how to sign up for a webhosting plan, register a domain, setup an FTP client, and make a PHP photo gallery. You don't have to subscribe to .mac btw, it just makes it easier for people that know nothing. If you know what you are doing, you can simply get your own hosting plan, upload pictures, and share them on your own, just like a PC. The crazy thing is, even if your webhost is $5 a month, that's still 60 a year. Most people spring for .mac because it's so simple.

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I love how Apple fanatics love to point out the no virus/spyware thing. You know why there are very few viruses for macs? It's not because it’s such a secure OS, it’s because NO ONE OWNS A MAC. A virus writer wants to infect as many machines as he can and it’s a waste of manpower and time to write a virus for a machine that no one owns. He might as well be writing a virus for a commodore 64. It would have the same effect, something that would infect an inferior machine that represents like 1 out of every 1000 boxes on the internet.

Yes, because windows is so secure... Let us integrate IE into the OS, that won't give us problems. Let's allow active extentions for programs into the browser, oh yes. Let's have a giant mess of a registry where every program can access anything! Oh how grand. MacOS is leapyears ahead windows with security sir. Also, there are numerous mac haters, like yourself, that try to write viruses for the system just because they hate them so. They try to prove a point and usually end up failing.

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I guess the next obvious question is, if Apple is supposedly so superior and OS X is such an awesome OS... then why don't you own a Mac? If you answer price, performance or availability of applications, you are pretty much admitting to what people have been saying this entire time. Just drop the Apple bullshit, it's getting old. The company sucks and their hardware is overpriced crap wrapped in shiny clear and white/black plastic.

Hi, I play games, so I own a PC. What is good for one person is not good for another. You see, I can admit that each has their advantages, you simply can not. You basically just bash things with no facts behind your claims, or worse, you make stuff up.

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you are pretty much admitting to what people have been saying this entire time

That's funny. What I usually see people say is: Mac Sucks LOL.

Some pumpkin pie!

BTW I'm waiting for OS 10.5 to buy a Mac.

The only reason I can bear windows is i have a giant monitor (and a secondary 17 inch monitor). I can't bear to use my laptop. Getting from window to window is a giant mess. Alt-tab only goes so far when you have many windows open.

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